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Amino Acids and Ritalin Helped Post Hemorrhagic Stroke

by joesi, Aug 02, 2006 12:00AM
I have found two things that helped my wife recover from her stroke 16 months ago. First, I put her on liquid amino acid supplements. Amino acid sup. is derived from Whey which is derived from cows milk. It's the same protein body builders use. She became more alert and was able to engage in her rehab effectively. Next and after much research, I found that Ritalin would be helpful.  Ritalin is basically an amphetamine and has the ability to "awaken" the brain which, in my wife's case, is what she needed. It is sometimes used for inpatient rehab to help those become more able to participate in their treatment.

My 53 year old wife of 34 years had a major bleed and was totally paralyzed when she had the stroke. She was blind on her left side in both eyes. Today, most people can't tell she had a stroke. Not even her doctors can and they are simply amazed at her recovery. She walks and talks normaly and goes to work everyday. She drives but with me in the car. In my opinion, she has recovered over 90% to date.

Search the internet and READ, READ, READ. Take charge. Find a doctor who will listen and help.

NEVER GIVE UP! THEY NEED YOUR HELP EVERYDAY.
Member Comments (20)

by lahinva, Aug 02, 2006 12:00AM
How did you get the doctor to prescribe the ritalin?  We just asked my dad's doctor about perscribing it and he sai  need t ge my da to a nueroloist for a consult.  That consult couldn't take place for two weeks.  I feel like that is just time lost.  

How long was your wife in rehab? My dad was taken out of rehab because he kept falling asleep.  That was about 4 weeks ago, at that time we mentioned to the doctor about perscribing ritalin.

by joesi, Aug 03, 2006 12:00AM
To: lahinva
I had to go through several doctors before I found one that would prescribe the Ritalin (a friend of a friend thing). I had the same problem in the beginning with doctors. No one could or would right the prescription. Perhaps find medical articles on the Internet concerning Ritalin and show it to your doctor. When I did that however, certain doctors became distaint. I assume it was because they felt I was learning too much.  Never give up.

by lahinva, Aug 03, 2006 12:00AM
Thanks... How long did it take before your wife starting showing improvement.  We are almost 3 months post stroke and getting a little concerned that he is not going to get much better.



by joesi, Aug 03, 2006 12:00AM
To: lahinva
In my opinion, recovery from a stroke can be slow.  As I understand it, speed of recovery may be gaged by the patients health and age prior to the stroke.

You might want to ask your doctor if they would allow adding liquid amino acid sup. to their diet to start.  Apparently, stroke victims have a hard time with the uptake of food proteins.  Next, find a doctor who will prescribe Ritalin for say, just a week to see if that will help "brighten" the patient up (20mg to 40mg depending on body weight, 12 hour time release). What I saw with my wife and others around her was that if YOU let them just sit, the stroke patient will do just that. They will do nothing to help themselves. YOU must take an active role in their rehab and it must be everyday. I admit, it's a long, hard road but then I found, no one else was going to do it.

by lahinva, Aug 03, 2006 12:00AM
You are completely correct... The therapists at the facility where my dad is seem to have given up on him.  I just don't understand why.  When he had the stroke all the neurologists and neurosurgeons told us that we would not know what my dad was going to be like until at least Sept.  But in July they had already given up on him.  My mom continues to work him every day, but it is not the same as therapy.  We are doing everything possible to get him back into therapy.



Is there a specific type of amino acid my mom should ask about.  SHe went to the heaalth food store today, but they said there were several types.

by joesi, Aug 03, 2006 12:00AM
To: lahinva
The liquid amino I use for my wife is from GNC and is called "Superior Amino 2222"  Worked well enough that I now buy it by the case on-line directly from GNC.

I am sad to say that, despite this country having the best medical service in the world, it lacks considerably when it comes to compassion, especialy for stroke patients. As you may have already felt, it seems it's all about the money and nothing else. Stroke/brain damaged patients are easily pushed asisde by medical world. I feel it's because their recovery is so time consuming and there is little money to be made with rehab. Yet, I firmly believe that some stroke patients can come back nearly 100%, depending on the amount of damage done. The brain CAN heal itself or find a work-around. It does take effort though. Lots of effort. Nearly every hour of every day they are awake. I've learned that change is best too. Keep changing the rehab routines. Invent new, simple exercises. Hand held video games can be a great help. Even doing croswword puzzles. Their brains need to be exercised daily.

NEVER GIVE UP!

by lahinva, Aug 03, 2006 12:00AM
So how long did you say your wife was in rehab before you noticed a change in her.  My dad is much older than her.  He is 80, but was very active prior to the stroke.

by Tressa999, Aug 04, 2006 12:00AM
joesi, does your wife continue to take Ritalin?  If not, how long did she take it?

by joesi, Aug 04, 2006 12:00AM
To: tressa999
Yes, she continues. She has only been on it for about 30 days now. However, there was improvement noticed by all after just one day on Ritalin - 20mg XR. She felt great but also felt there was more left. Her dosage was increased to 40mg XR. She said she feels "normal" now and she looks and acts "normal" in my opinion. She has no side effects from Ritalin. She sleeps well and her blood pressure is normal.

by lahinva, Aug 04, 2006 12:00AM
So you just started the ritalin 30 days ago and she had her stroke 16 months ago?

by joesi, Aug 04, 2006 12:00AM
To: lahinva
Yes. She had her stroke about 16 months ago and has been on Ritalin for about 30 days now with exceptional results. However, had I known about Ritalin or amino acids at the on-set, I would have started her on both much earlier. After researching articles on the Internet, I discovered that Ritalin type drugs are sometimes introduced while stroke patients are in formal rehab to help them participate better. You might like to Google the term "stroke ritalin" and read some of the papers authored by various doctors concerning this matter. Are either or both proper for your situation? I can't answer that but it seems to have worked for my wife. In fact, I never had a doctor say "no" to either or both. Most doctors I found simply didn't seem to know enough about either to say "yes". What I got was a lot of "I don't know" answers to the questions "will this help". The point is, I NEVER got an answer of "NO, this WONT help" or "this may be dangerious to the patient". My thought was that if no one could tell me it was wrong or dangerious and all the articles I read said it was helpful then, perhaps it would help in my wifes case. Finding a doctor who had experience with these issues was the trick.

NEVER GIVE UP

by lahinva, Aug 04, 2006 12:00AM
Thanks for all your help.  We spoke with my dads doctor about the ritalin today.  He answered the same way all of your doctors did.  He didn't say it wouldn't help, but he said he would need a neurologist to evaluate him and prescribe it.  So on Friday we are packing my dad up and taking him to the neurologist.  Hope it works....

by Tressa999, Aug 04, 2006 12:00AM
To: joesi
How soon after the stroke did you start the amino acids?

by joesi, Aug 05, 2006 12:00AM
lahinva - Good luck and I hope it works out for you. You might want to read up on the subject first before you visit the doctor. Keep in mind that Ritalin is an amphetamine and may cause undesirable side effects i.e. high blood pressure, inability to sleep